Map Rant

Dec. 6th, 2009 09:35 am
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I visit North Georgia once or twice a year with friends, and one of the primary activities there is hiking. Now, hiking is a lot nicer if you know where you are and where you're going. I hadn't really expended too much energy towards trying to find good maps; I got a Forest Service map from the rangers office, and it shows Forest Service roads and creeks and streams. Otherwise I relied on my Garmin Nuvi to get me to places.
Last trip, though, we ran into the limitations of a badly marked trail, and I've been increasingly annoyed with the lack of a map that actually shows available hiking trails and other information that is useful for orienting yourself.
I recently moved my office, and in the process stumbled upon the Finnish "terrain map" of the region around my cottage. Looking at it caused me enough irritation to write this rant. You can check out a snippet of the map here. The legend is a bit hidden, but can be found here. (It's printed on the margin of the physical map together with two coordinate systems, and declination adjustments.
It should be pretty obvious from perusing the legend that the map has an incredible amount of information. It shows every building, color-coded by type, which often makes it trivial to locate yourself -- just find a cluster of buildings, then find a matching formation on the map. It has topographic information (the narrow dashed, narrow, and thick brown lines plus things like ridges), the type of vegetation, the type of shore, water depth, marine navigational features, wells, type of wetlands by ease of traversal, footpaths and roads, ditches, etc. Yet despite all of this the map is not cluttered and very easy to use as a basic map without ever looking at the legend. This isn't a fluke, either -- you can buy one of these for any point in the country. The organization the produces them is the Finnish equivalent of the USGS, a government agency. They also have offices in many cities, where you can have them print you custom maps with any and all the information you want, such as property lines and folio numbers, for a pretty low fee.
In contrast, my Forest Service map has no real way to tell an interstate from a gravel road -- it's completely useless for automotive navigation, and it lacks a ton of basic information. The USGS topo maps that I've been able to find are similar, and the topo curves tend to overwhelm everything else. I checked out the handheld Garmin units, and they don't have a detailed topo map of Georgia or Florida at all. Yet, the land of private mapping, USGS and the birth of services like Mapquest surely can give me a decent hiking map?
So, a challenge to you, dear readers -- point me to a place to find a good map of regions of America!

Date: 2009-12-06 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elusivetiger.livejournal.com

Finland: 131,000 mi^2
United States: 3,790,000 mi^2

Good luck! :)

True, but:

Date: 2009-12-06 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] varjohaltia.livejournal.com
Finland ~16 people / km^2
USA ~32 people / km^2

Re: True, but:

Date: 2009-12-06 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] practicesmiling.livejournal.com
You're assuming that most of those people can read words, let alone maps.

Re: True, but:

Date: 2009-12-06 09:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] varjohaltia.livejournal.com
Do I hear an English teacher there?

Date: 2009-12-06 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elgordomagyar.livejournal.com
Varjo good buddy yer fergitin yer in the Suhthern Yoonited States an thangs be done a mite diffrunt down heah. Yee-haw!

That bit of southern humor aside, there are hiking journals and magazines here in the US and not just imports of European ones. One of them might have a good answer for you.

The other option is to get military maps of CONUS and its subsections. They are available online.

ElGordo

Date: 2009-12-06 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] varjohaltia.livejournal.com
Those could be useful Can you point me to where I could find them, or what they might be called? I tried Google but didn't find anything besides maps showing the locations of military bases.

Date: 2009-12-06 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaote.livejournal.com
Ohio has the same problem... I found a great place to hike (http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/parks/tarhollw/tabid/792/Default.aspx) but got worryingly lost with their map - in fact, I was simply lucky to have gone around the short trail instead of setting out on the huge loop. The map doesn't make any kind of sense when you're actually trying to find your place on it! Beautiful park, though. Just wish they'd assume that people actually want trail accuracy with their maps. Picnic pavilion accuracy, I'm sure, is a much higher priority... :P

Date: 2009-12-07 01:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] varjohaltia.livejournal.com
Yeah, the Vogel State Park was great, and the Bear Hair Gap trail was awesome, but...
1) The ranger station gave me a trail map -- you had to ask, they weren't available in the bins.
2) The park was in the process of changing blazes. Bizarrely. So the trail had some old, some new, and many that were just painted over with brown paint :-o
3) The different trails had different color blazes. The map had a legend of this. Except the copy was B&W.
4) The map was so useless I got (slightly) lost in the first half mile because of undocumented roads and trails branching off.
...all of this makes it one of the best marked trails there yet ;-)

Date: 2009-12-07 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elgordomagyar.livejournal.com
Hope that Everest of links I sent you helps.

El Gordo

Date: 2009-12-07 09:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hyanan.livejournal.com
Seen some and let's just say they're not meant for public consumption. :)

I am curious to check this site (http://www.topozone.com/) out and poke around.

And, English teacher chiming in here: I thought American knowledge of geography was bad...until I came to Japan.

Man, sorry for the edits. Can't type today. Fingers freezing...burr.
Edited Date: 2009-12-07 09:43 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-12-07 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] varjohaltia.livejournal.com
The site looks cool, and I like the interface... Unfortunately, for my current test case of this trail (http://www.cartecaybikes.com/rides/Maps/BearCreek.pdf) it doesn't list the trail, the road leading to the trail, a few nearby roads, the camp ground, nor any of the three trails starting from the trailhead :-(

Date: 2009-12-08 09:56 am (UTC)

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